Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Farrakhan Speaks on the Darfur Crisis

12 comments:

Brother Spotless said...

He was going well until he started talking about the Zionists...

I would like to speak to the person who supplies Farrakhan with his info, because I would really like to get to the root of this. Some of the stuff he's said about Jews is awsome in its venom. Unless there's some truth to his words (which I have yet to find), a person of his stature simply should not say them.

I want to be a supporter of Farakhan's, because a lot of what he says concerning black people is not only true but also has the ability to uplift the people; he could be a most powerful leader. But how can I fully support a person who refers to New York City as "Hymietown?" We'd condemn someone for saying Brooklyn is "Niggertown." The terms don't carry the same racist wieght, but I think you get my meaning.

Brother Spotless said...

As for his other comments: if he knew me he'd point to me as a person who has fallen for the Black vs. African American trick. I would ask this of him: how strong of a "nervous system" could have been formed in the 10 or so years that Malcolm and Martin led? My question points to my belief that because slavery did so much damage to our identity, there is no way the bond could have formed in such a short period of time. Besides, he basically admits that the bond was artificially formed, and I don't believe that artificial bonds last...

I do give him credit for pointing out the hypocracy of supporting blacks in other nations when there are blacks in this nation suffering as well. But Jews aren't the only culprits of that; Bob Johnson is doing the same thing and he's black!

Brother Lightness said...

Is Smartness a member of Farakkhan's fan club?

Brother Smartness said...

I am one to criticize Farrakhan with the quickness when it comes to several issues. I would hope that people wouldn't let his shortcomings completely cloud their vision.

I presented this link because I don't hear anyone else talking about the genocides that are happening in the Democratic Republic of the Congo with the same fierceness. Likewise, the Rwandan genocide is a massacre that was swept under the rug. And Sudan,….Sudan is a serious problem. It's a problem whose solution requires us to educate ourselves. I'm not saying that Farrakhan is the teacher with all the answers, but if you don't know what the President of Sudan looks like and if your knowledge of the issues is minimal, you should rectify that by buying yourself a book or something.

Brother Spotless said...

True indeed. And for the record, I do know what the President of the Sudan looks like.

The point I was trying to make was that we condemn white folks and call them racist for saying such things. If David Duke were to say something with truth, should we listen? Does the truth outwiegh past remarks?

solgenique said...

"A broken clock is right twice a day"

This isn't just Darfur or Sudan; It's Sudan, Chad, the Central African Republic and "black gold" aka oil. There's oil in Chad and they think there's oil in the CAR in the region located near the northern with Chad (where there trouble brewing). It's Chad and CAR building an anti-Sudan alliance. It's rebel forces and refugees and other displaced people. It's very reminiscent of what happened in DRCongo following the events in Rwanda, and 7 countries got into that kerfuffle and things still haven't been fully resolved. People talk about Rwanda like those issues are in the past. I mean, issues from the 1970's and Burundi are still relavant today in DRCongo! And instability there means instability for the African Great Lakes Region. I don't even know how instability in Northern Africa will pan out but Niger and Libya won't be out of it for long.

And we're talking about Farrakhan?

What does Farrakhan have to do with this? If it's the messenger that bothers you, fine. Here's the BBC telling you it's not as clear-cut as Arabs vs Black Africans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3737566.stm

Does that help get people back to what's relevant?

I don't agree with him that "Darfur" is insignificant because DRCongo trumps it. Suffering is suffering and DRCongo is probably head and shoulders more developed than CAR or Chad combined, and that's not saying much.

I will admit to being disturbed by how en vogue Darfur is in America, especially among western celebrities. I don't think any good can come of this. These issues simply have no place in popular media.

Brother Spotless said...

Interesting view, Solgenique. Understand, I know much more about the issue than most; the dire situation is not lost on me. Abd you are correct to point out that Farrakhan is correct in a lot of what he says, even if he sometimes says off-the-wall ish.

His comments, however, go beyond the complexities of the Darfur situation; I simply pointed some of them out and commented on them. Again, I know how serious the Darfur situation is, and how impactful it is on Chad and other surrounding nations.

Brother Lightness said...

Solgenique,

Forgive me for coming across as crude, but can I have your child?

Your comments always bring value-adding perspective to our discussions.

Brother Spotless said...

"Forgive me for coming across as crude, but can I have your child?"

Lightness, you're such a card...

JB said...

There is a need to clear up a few incorrect statements.

brother spotless said:

Some of the stuff he's said about Jews is awsome in its venom. ..how can I fully support a person who refers to New York City as "Hymietown?"

First of all, it was Rev. Jesse Jackson who made the "hymietown" remark during the 1984 presidential elections, for which he was forced to grovel on his knees over 20 years begging for forgiveness from White Zionist organizations like the ADL.

On the issue of Zionists, he is 100% correct and Zionist DOES NOT EQUAL JEWS. Just ask these Jewish Rabbis why they are protesting Zionism and they will tell you!

On the issue with Darfur, the root issues that are not addressed by the media which leads to much of the confusion is that the crisis there is based on ongoing fighting of a civil war between Sudanese Government and its supporters and the militias and their supporters who are fighting against the Sudanese government.. with the aid of the CIA and Israeli government.

The innocent non-combatants are, like aways caught in the cross fire. If the civil war is ended with a peace plan (as was done in Southern Sudan) then the crisis will end.

Many are coming to see that the usual suspects are fueling the civil war in an efforts to rape more of Africa's resources such as newly found OIL or aka Black Gold deposits.

This article from the Sudan Tribune breaks it down more on the poliTRICKS of this who thing.

Brother Spotless said...

With all due respect, jb, I will have to disagree.

I know about the news conference with Jesse Jackson. But my sources who have known Farrakhan for some time tell me that "Hymietown" was a term he used often. I'm going to stick with my sources...

That Jewish group you mentioned is known for its anti-Jewish stance (which is just odd to me). In short, they oppose the existence of the Israeli State and they were participants in the Holocuast Denial Conference hosted by Iran. I question its objectivity...

Zionists represent, according to Dictionary.com, "a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel." So as far as I am concerned, aside from this weird Orthodox Jewish Neturei Karta, Zionists and Judism are one in the same...

JB said...

brother spotless said: >>>my sources tell me that "Hymietown" was a term he used often<<<

Well tell your anonymous "sources" to provide a quote and perhaps they will have an ounce of credence. Meanwhile anyone can do a net search from 1933 to 2007 and they will not find anything besides your anonymous "sources".

brother spotless said: >>>That Jewish group you mentioned is known for its anti-Jewish stance<<<

With all due respect to your opinion, Zionisism does not equal to Jewish or Judaism, period. You can argue with Moses and Torah if you must but I suggest reading up on the history of the state of Israel by spying the Balfour Declaration.

Back on topic, there's more news coming out about Darfur, Uganda and the U.S. campaign to destabilize Sudan